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halen
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Post subject: Help of Phisics Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:41 am |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:06 am Posts: 8
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First I wanted to thank the site for the existing documentation that do the future pinball easy to configure. I read George's Future Pinball Installation and Alternate Executable Files thread and I had a problem. I use the executable file Future Pinball 2.7.exe and the default xml file Phisics 1 in BAM folder. For each table i use the xml of the phisics that its necessary. For some table I had problem (Band Wagon, Batman). I tested with differents exe and worked only for exe 1.0 and exe.2.0 the others exe this not work. I keep the default XML phisics 1. What did I do wrong?
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GeorgeH
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:24 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:12 pm Posts: 2781 Location: Arkansas, USA
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When you say that Band Wagon and Batman don't work, what do you mean? Do these tables crash or the physics not work? I am guessing the latter. There are several versions of Batman, some of which have XML files and some do not. But Band Wagon has no XML file so it should be using the "default.xml" file. If you play a game and open BAM, the menu shows the file it is using for the physics at the bottom right side of the screen. Band Wagon should show that it is using the "default.xml" file. If you do not see it there, something is not right. Make sure the "default.xml" file has been saved in the BAM folder. I made the mistake once of saving it in the "Future Pinball" folder and it did not work. Be sure the "default.xml" file is in the BAM folder which should be a subfolder of the "Future Pinball" folder.
George
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halen
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:45 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:06 am Posts: 8
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George,
Ok . I made that you ask me. The BAM show to me the xml file and the directory that you are install. That´s OK. The band wagon is working with default.xml (1.0) and future pinball.exe (original). I change the exe to Future Pinball 2.7 and the table dont load. The BAM crash file is:
BAM path: D:\Arquivos de programas\Future Pinball\BAM XML: D:\Arquivos de programas\Future Pinball\BAM\default.xml table: D:\Arquivos de programas\Future Pinball\Tables\Band Wagon (Bally 1965).fpt 1: TAG: FILE=dllmain.cpp, LINE=380, FUNC=Routed_SwapBuffers 2: TAG: FILE=dllmain.cpp, LINE=395, FUNC=Routed_SwapBuffers SBC: -1 NFC: 0 Loaded modules: Future Pinball.exe, 1.9.2013.25 : 00400000 - 01E32000 ntdll.dll, 6.2.17134.228 : 76EF0000 - 77080000 KERNEL32.DLL, 6.2.17134.1 : 75E10000 - 75EF0000 KERNELBASE.dll, 6.2.17134.165 : 765A0000 - 76784000 apphelp.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 71D90000 - 71E2D000 USER32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 75390000 - 7551D000 win32u.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 75520000 - 75537000 GDI32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 75080000 - 750A2000 gdi32full.dll, 6.2.17134.112 : 73870000 - 739D4000 fmod.dll, 3.7.4.0 : 10000000 - 10096000 COMCTL32.dll, 6.10.17134.228 : 72EB0000 - 730B4000 msvcp_win.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 74EA0000 - 74F1D000 ADVAPI32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 75310000 - 75388000 ucrtbase.dll, 6.2.17134.191 : 75F60000 - 7607E000 msvcrt.dll, 7.0.17134.1 : 76210000 - 762CF000 sechost.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 75730000 - 75774000 combase.dll, 6.2.17134.112 : 750B0000 - 7530C000 COMDLG32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 75780000 - 75856000 RPCRT4.dll, 6.2.17134.112 : 75640000 - 75700000 shcore.dll, 6.2.17134.112 : 760E0000 - 76168000 bcryptPrimitives.dll, 6.2.17134.137 : 74E40000 - 74E98000 SspiCli.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 737B0000 - 737D0000 CRYPTBASE.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 737A0000 - 737AA000 SHLWAPI.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 76090000 - 760D5000 SHELL32.dll, 6.2.17134.228 : 73A60000 - 74DAA000 ole32.dll, 6.2.17134.137 : 75540000 - 7563C000 cfgmgr32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 737D0000 - 73809000 windows.storage.dll, 6.2.17134.228 : 76790000 - 76D4A000 kernel.appcore.dll, 6.2.17134.112 : 73A00000 - 73A0F000 profapi.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 739E0000 - 739F8000 powrprof.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 76DB0000 - 76DF5000 FLTLIB.DLL, 6.2.17134.1 : 74DB0000 - 74DB8000 OLEAUT32.dll, 6.2.17134.48 : 762D0000 - 76366000 MSACM32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 71AF0000 - 71B09000 WINMM.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 72050000 - 72074000 WSOCK32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 71EF0000 - 71EF8000 WS2_32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 75EF0000 - 75F57000 DINPUT8.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 6BF90000 - 6BFC9000 OPENGL32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 6BBF0000 - 6BCC9000 GLU32.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 6BF50000 - 6BF8F000 winmmbase.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 72020000 - 72043000 Newton.dll, : 02530000 - 025A1000 libcurl.dll, 7.13.1.0 : 025B0000 - 0264D000 DevIL.dll, 0.1.6.5 : 02650000 - 027C3000 ILUT.dll, 0.1.6.5 : 001E0000 - 001ED000 ILU.dll, 0.1.6.5 : 027D0000 - 027E3000 WININET.dll, 11.0.17134.228 : 72AA0000 - 72EA5000 IMM32.DLL, 6.2.17134.1 : 75700000 - 75726000 BAM.dll, 1.4.238.0 : 69C80000 - 6A1EF000 PSAPI.DLL, 6.2.17134.1 : 76170000 - 76176000 SETUPAPI.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 759E0000 - 75E0B000 HID.DLL, 6.2.17134.1 : 6BF40000 - 6BF4A000 VERSION.dll, 6.2.17134.1 : 73190000 - 73198000 renderingengine.dll, : 69860000 - 69C74000 -------------------------------------------------- Error code C0000005: ACCESS VIOLATION
Address: 02557D87 -> Newton.dll:00027D87 Flags: 00000000
Fault Occured At $ADDRESS:02557D87 ->Newton.dll:00027D87 with
Address: 00000006 -> UNKNOWN:00000006 *** 0 called from $ADDRESS:00000006
I already talk when i return to future original exe then the table load.
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halen
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:48 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:06 am Posts: 8
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And the default.xml i download from your tread:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <document> <!-- Physics 1.0 (or original physics) processing --> <!-- Note. Changing the FPS will effect how how all the other values interact with each other and should be a high value due to the fact the ball in a pinball is moving very fast and lower values will cause the ball to go into objects fractionally (thus we must sample at a higher rate)
threaded (true/false) defines if the physics runs in a separate thread for multicore CPU's (dev version only) --> <physics fps="256" threaded="0"></physics>
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GeorgeH
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:40 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:12 pm Posts: 2781 Location: Arkansas, USA
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halen
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:51 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:06 am Posts: 8
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George,
Yes, I Have you successfully used the "Default.xml" file with the 2.7 exe on other tables. Only few tables i have this problem (Band Wagon, Batman Dark Knight...)
I used the xml file that you post but the problem persist. The BAM begins work and the load bar come to the middle and the table doesnt load.
I change the exe file to Zedonius and the bam dont work and the table did not open at all. In this case the bar does not even begin to load.
The BAM crash log is the same for the tables that dont load: Error code C0000005: ACCESS VIOLATION
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GeorgeH
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:48 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:12 pm Posts: 2781 Location: Arkansas, USA
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I think I have figured out the cause now that you say you got an "access violation". I see you installed the Future Pinball program in: D:\Arquivos de programas\Future Pinball\ Step 2 of my guide located here says to not install Future Pinball in either of the following folders: C:\Program Files\ C:\Program Files (x86)\ I used google to translate "Arquivos de programas" from Portuguese to English and it translated to "Program Files". ...So I assume this is where you have other Windows programs installed. The problem is that the program needs to be able to write files to the program folder and Windows will not allow that to occur when you install Future Pinball to either of the above folders. The program should function properly as long as you avoid installing it to either of the above two folders. You need to avoid installing Future Pinball to either of these 2 folders. D:\Arquivos de programas\ D:\Arquivos de programas (x86)\ I suppose you are using the D drive designation for some reason instead of using C which most of us use. My guide recommends installing Future Pinball in the following folder: C:\Games\Future Pinball\ In your case, I suppose you might want to install it here: D:\Games\Future Pinball\ I'm sorry you had a problem using my guide. I wrote the guide in English. I did not know that Microsoft translated the names of folders into other languages. I guess I need to update my guide. George
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halen
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:08 am |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:06 am Posts: 8
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George, Your guide is great!!! I learned a lot from it. I installed future pinball and BAM in my second HD (D:) because if i have problem with OS i dont lose anything. I think the problem is not the path of future is installed. If the problem was the path all the tables dont work. I will try to format my HD and install a fresh OS in the weekend. I'll let you know.
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GeorgeH
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:37 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:12 pm Posts: 2781 Location: Arkansas, USA
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I suggest you try reinstalling Future Pinball and avoid installing it to either of these 2 folders before you reformat your drive:
D:\Arquivos de programas\ D:\Arquivos de programas (x86)\
I am nearly positive this is the problem. The reason you got the access violation is either the Future Pinball program or BAM was trying to save a file for the table to your program folder. Windows no longer allows programs to save files to either of the above folders. That is why you got the access violation.
If everything else works on your hard drive, I don't see a need to reformat it. You should at least try this first. It could save you a lot of work.
George
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ravarcade
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Post subject: Re: Help of Phisics Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:40 pm |
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Joined: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:02 pm Posts: 1034
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In windows few dirs are "special". In dirs: x:\Program Files\ x:\Program Files (x86)\ x:\Windows\ and few other... Programs can write only if they are run as " Super-Administrator". In most cases only program installer can be run that way. BAM writes files in own dir. FP do it too.
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