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 Post subject: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:42 am 
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Hi i have not made for now a pinball table on the old tv serie called "Get Smart" but ive think it would be a great idea. Here is a link to some videos of the old tv serie "Get Smart": http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x3ckzz_cltvideostorefront_get-smart-season-1/1#video=x24381o.

Unfortunatly for my self, if you look at my pinball designs and look : http://www.pinsimdb.org/pinball/?searchAuthorIdx=14711. I'm not soo good making beautifull design look and put many contents into the playfield, like other pinball creators who are soo much good.

Some of my ideas:
It would have 20 missions, based on some old tv serie episodes. That the player enter an old phone cabin (model) that have a kicker. The player would enter this phone cabin and there would have some images list briefing the mission (or next mission) with vocal sound. When the player would enter the cabin but the mission would not be completed, the boss would say that the mission is not completed.

The image list would be simply some images of important sequence explaining things with some vocals of the old tv serie. A comparasion would be like the comics books, that show only important images giving the player a visual prgress of the story. It would have also images of funny parts as when the agent smart say: "Dont tell me he has a gun" and the partner say "He has a gun" then the agent smart say: "Ive told you not to tell me that". Sequence that could be shown and heard vocally when the ball would enter some kicker(s). All sort of vocal things and funny events. It could have some old tv with a black screen on the backbox, that show some images list for the players for peoples using two screens. But also have some small floating Hud images list in some upper corner of the screen for peoples using just 1 screen. With under the images list some dmd, writing the text that is heard vocally. This for peoples that have some hearing problems.

It would be like 40% or 45% game play and 55% or 60% of mission story and funny part story progress. Peoples could help my self with the programming of this game, but it is important for my self as into my other pinball creations to explain the scripting for 3 reasons. First reason is to help beginners with the software Futurepinball understand all the scripting, second and third reasons is that if i find some bugs or peoples would find some bugs could help make it work; because the script will be easy to follow.

This could be a new type of pinball, because most pinball that are about some movie or tv serie are more shown into some dmd animated, not as some images list showing the progress story. Also that peoples would wonder what would be the next funny missions, wich could make the player wanting to progress. I wonder what peoples think about it?

Thank's for your time. A+


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:00 am 
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Yeah, I can help you out, when i have time, you should start the table. Then post a link to what you have so far, then i can add to it and post it back. 1 thing to consider when starting a new Pinball game. "An original" what type of layout do you want.

:P I myself try to go for the shocking, and new.. not the same old layouts.. Here is an example of a great layout, that might work for your project. I was saving this for one of my originals, but i have a few of these laying around.

I can also find you a normal long type layout/ blueprint. This thing can also be stretched, and modified to your liking, such as taking the right part out, and adding some ramps, or whatever really. Games really turn out best when using some type of layout.. then you can move stuff around if you need to.

20 missions also means you will need a big table. You can make the table size bigger. Of course you knew that allready.

http://www.pinsimdb.org/pinres/entry-41 ... dium_table


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:09 am 
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Now i try to optimize a model in Blender version 2.74. But i dont know how. It is a model with soo much polygones and multiple parts composing the 3D model. The file is in format 3DS. I know how to import it into Blender, i have seen some youtube videos telling to reduce the triangles telling that choose your model, then click on the tool symbole "wrench" wich is (add a modifier), then it say to select (decimate). But the thing is that it dont work as i want and i wonder if some person here know how to "add a modifier/decimate" to all parts??

The intention is to reduce the polygones of (all components/parts) and to do it all (at the same time). In the free software Softimage XSI Mod Tool version 6.01 to reduce the polygones, you simply select all the model (Ctrl + A) then go into the top text menu and choose "Model" then "Modify/Poly Mesh", then you see the option that is writen "Polygones Reduction". But in Blender i try to select all things, that i want to reduce the polygones of all things at the same time.

Here is the link to the 3D model i have find with the keyword free, there is different formats into, but not a "Wavefront OBJ" format that i would like. http://www.filedropper.com/thecartwentydegree. It would be great to have all the model in OBJ file format (without being optimized and beiing optimized also), so that i can import it into Softimage XSI Mod Tool v6.01. Also that it would be optimized so that it is more "squared". If i woud say that the model from 1 to 10. That 1 mean that it is very squared and 10 would mean as the original files. I would optimize it to the level number 3. It is very important to optimize the models and reduce its polygones, it is not every peoples that have the latest high tech super speed computer.

My idea is create some "Flipper" that would be the Red Car. That is quite a like the same dimensions of the "Flipper T1 Long". What i mean is the width: (back of the car and front of the car) mostly like the larger of the "Flipper T1 Long". The height of the car as the height of the "T1 Long Flipper". And the length of the car, mostly the same as the length of the "Long flipper". Here is an example of an old abandonned FP table project of mine and my brother that i created the flippers working models: http://www.filedropper.com/twentydegreebatmantablebase. So you should understand when i say, that i would like the Red Car replace the flipper.

The other thing i have think is that the table would not be into some MOD, but only use the old version of Futurepinball, wich is version 19. xxxxxx. The same version as onto the Futurepinball website. Also if you want to take a look at the table (there is really not much done). Here is the link: http://www.filedropper.com/getsmartv1twentydegree. As always i encourage your self to antivirus check the files of the temporary links.

Thank's for your time and help. A+


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:04 pm 
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Your model needs to be decimated 1 piece at a time. I downloaded the model it is a 12mb file. I will see if i can decimate it for you. Best advice is to find a Low Poly model of a similar car. This will make it easier. Some models have way too many pieces, because they are factory/company models showing off the engine parts. I have seen 100 mb models, these are not good for games. I will see what I can do and write back.


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:34 pm 
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Yeah, that model you have has way too many pieces, spokes, and parts.. 4MB 3ds file. Even if you decimate the tire down to .01 it still has too many polygons like 150 for each tire then the tires don't look round, but all ugly.. So you have 2 alternatives, use the 2 free models i posted, or use a car model from a pinball game already made.

here is a link to 2 convertible models Low Poly the link will be available for a few weeks then I will delete it. Both are under 100 kb so very good for games, you can modify them in Blender, then scale their size in MilkShape, they don't have any texture wrap, but neither did the 4mb file.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/howi0 ... models.rar

If you want a car model with a texture wrap, there is a pinball game on PinSimDb that has very cool car models. But they are not convertibles, But they do have texture wraps.

http://www.pinsimdb.org/pinball/table-1 ... lipperless)


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:24 pm 
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I have a good surprise, i was able to find you the exact model from GetSmart. (also if anyone else needs models, let me know because i have a 30 day free trial. Ask me now and not after my trial expires. :roll: either here or IM.. some sites will charge you 20 or 30$ for 1 model, i get them free.

The get smart car is a SunBeam Tiger. pictured here..
Here is the link to the model, you will have to just remove the roof.. then maybe decimate it just a little bit.. ;) but it should be great.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/2nv96 ... mTiger.rar


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:06 am 
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Since you Pinball4fun have 30days here are some suggestions of 3d models that i think. I might forget other things of 3d models that can or could be related to the old tv serie "Get Smart". Here is some images link:

Red Baron Plane
http://site.hobbypartz.com/pimages/36A02-RedBaron-RED-KIT/700/36A02-RedBaron-RED-KIT-2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2745055734_e4a13088dd_m.jpg

Hot Air Balloon
http://www.primarythemepark.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/older-hot-air-balloon.jpg

Books Tablet furniture
http://www.supercoloring.com/sites/default/files/styles/coloring_full/public/cif/2008/12/in-library-coloring-page.gif
http://www.canistream.it/tv/poster/?proxy=episodes/70386/6102.jpg

Garbadge boat
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/garbage-boat-being-hauled-victoria-harbor-october-hong-kong-china-dense-population-means-its-existing-landfills-32014307.jpg

water life saver
http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/Kcn/o4G/Kcno4GKMi.jpeg

old gun
https://mortarandpistol.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/thompson-machine-gun-by-daniel-mcgrath.jpg
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/360583/360583,1286839242,4/stock-photo-old-good-gangsters-tommy-gun-isolated-on-white-background-clipping-path-included-62809474.jpg
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/msDuAksyu7urmPLkxDuMEow.jpg

old motorcycle
http://liv2ryd.net/Liv2Ryd.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/classic_bmw_motorcycles.jpg

chicken costume
http://www3.telus.net/almondx/8%20chicken.jpg
http://media3.popsugar-assets.com/files/users/0/88/49_2007/ashtonchicken125_0/i/Ashton-Kutcher-Angry-Chicken-Suit.jpg

old street light
http://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/666109/115511590/stock-photo-lamp-post-lamppost-street-road-light-pole-isolated-115511590.jpg

bird water sculpture
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/getsmart/images/8/8c/Eps_Birdie.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100118235353

wood box crate
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/old-wooden-boxes-6510678.jpg
http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/WOM/tvtimes.jpg
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m88Mg9G2Cx885PrzHr1zQ_w.jpg

cone of silence
http://www.writeraccess.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/blog-cone-of-silence.jpg

pool table / triangle / stick / ball
http://www.billiardsmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Get-Smart-1.jpg

doll
http://iamtalkytina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/TinaSMART.png

desk lamp
http://fluxindy.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/gelamp2-330x412.jpg
http://scene7.targetimg1.com/is/image/Target/17313995?wid=480&hei=480

get smart blue couch
http://www.3click.tv/mp401/Get%20Smart/season%202/metadata/sm_6072.jpg

up stairs
http://hookedonhouses.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Phil-Claire-interview-on-sofa1-611x343.jpg

binoculars
http://www.bestbuy.ca/multimedia/Products/500x500/103/10325/10325865.jpg

lockers
https://johnkennethmuir.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/smart1.jpg

fireplace
http://www.ilovegetsmart.com/tall.jpg

table chair
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ucd_Dp4H_3Y/0.jpg

suitcase
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/getsmart/images/7/79/Stryker.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120116035037

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Thank's Pinbal4fun for the car, even if peoples as you send my self some free 3d models with a lot of polygones; what will i'll do with the car. Is from it try to recreate piece by piece the same car but with low polygones. This simply by puting my 3d models forms i create in the place of the car, then simply take out the car of high polygones (so somehow my 3d model take place of the car). It is a lot of work and take time beside my ways of life.

I do this with mostly all my 3d models into my tables (specially when they have too much polygones), as so i'm sure that the 3d models come from my self; and are low in polygones.

Thank's for the help. A+


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:30 pm 
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Ok, i will check back, this list will take me about 1 or 2 hours, to get for you, I will get more than 1 model for each, so High Poly and Low Poly, so you can choose, I will also try to find you models that already have a texture wrap.. It makes things lots more easy. I will be back later today.


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:21 pm 
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;) Some of the models is was able to find on TF3DM so you can just download them from there. so i just posted links, then the ones that were not on TF3DM i posted links to MEDIAFIRE. Hope this helps.


Hot air balloon and red baron
http://www.mediafire.com/download/nq3xe ... +baron.rar

BookShelf
http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/shalf-13509.html
Books
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=book&format= ... rch=Search


Garbage Boat (did not find) only garbage truck, and garbage cans)
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=garbage&form ... rch=Search

MotorCycles
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=motorcycle&f ... rch=Search

Life Saver and Tommy gun models
http://www.mediafire.com/download/womj6 ... my+Gun.rar

Street Lights
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=street+light ... rch=Search

Bird Bath
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=fountain&for ... rch=Search

Box Crates
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=crate&format ... rch=Search

Pool Table
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=pool+table&f ... rch=Search

Lamp
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=lamp&format= ... rch=Search

Sofa Couch
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=sofa&format= ... rch=Search

Stairs
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=stairs&forma ... rch=Search

Locker
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=locker&forma ... rch=Search

FirePlace
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=fireplace&fo ... rch=Search

Table chair
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=Table&format ... rch=Search
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=chair&format ... rch=Search

Suitcase
http://tf3dm.com/search/?q=suitcase&for ... rch=Search

Chicken, binoculars, and DOLL
http://www.mediafire.com/download/c9yyt ... d+doll.rar

:P The list is complete. Most of them can be found on TF3DM.


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 Post subject: Re: Get Smart Pinball
 Post Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:43 pm 
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Thank's for the help, my brain is for now not inspired. I should watch my dvd seasons i have buyed of the Get Smart old tv serie. I might have idea of things and logic to put into the table. I have created my own car flipper that look like the car 3d model you have sent (looking like the car in the tv serie). But all made by my self, because the polygones was way too much. Even my own model of the car took too much polygones (i knew because of the loading) so i had to put the car more squared; also make the 3d model to have less multiple faces.

For peoples that have the software Softimage XSI Mod Tool version 6.01. To make some faces join together (like if you would have a rectangle of multiple squares). You must have your object selected first, then you click on the face icon; after you select the other faces with your mouse by pressing on the keyboard button (Ctrl). This make your self select multiple (Faces or Lines or Dots). Next thing you right click your mouse to make apear the options menu, you should see some option "if i rememeber" called (smooth, collide objects); what i remember is that next to the text they show the keyboard shortcut symbol " ; " the 2 dots differents one from the other. If you dont select the good options you can always go back (Ctrl + Z). Joining some faces, will make the "lines" separate the faces disapear and make the faces join together (wich result in less polygones).

Here is a printscreen of the table with the flippers i have created the 3d model "ms3d file" the flipper car having less then 90kb of weight size. There is really not much done.
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Thank's for your help. A+


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